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		<title>Comment on Cranbrook house fire death by Andrea Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll miss you papa!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Rombach takes on Jumbo opposers by David R Pacey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David R Pacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Morning Endangered.

We still not have seen nor heard from you here on my cell number about the dire predicitons you have been speaking about regarding foreign workers and their supposed abuse.

I have offered to help you do something constructive about this supposed danger to society you speak about but still you have not called my cell number with any thing to substantiate anything you have alleged.

So again, if you have any thing  factual about your assertion of abuse in the job market  for workers called &quot; foreign &quot;, here is my cell number again  -  250 342 1524.

I told you that as BC LIberal President, in the Columbia River Revelstoke areas,  that if you had anything factual rather than alarmist, I would be more than pleased to check into your concerns and if necessary, have the proper authorities deal with the problems.

I have yet to hear from you.  

David R Pacey
BC LIberal President
Columbia River Revelstoke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Morning Endangered.</p>
<p>We still not have seen nor heard from you here on my cell number about the dire predicitons you have been speaking about regarding foreign workers and their supposed abuse.</p>
<p>I have offered to help you do something constructive about this supposed danger to society you speak about but still you have not called my cell number with any thing to substantiate anything you have alleged.</p>
<p>So again, if you have any thing  factual about your assertion of abuse in the job market  for workers called &#8221; foreign &#8220;, here is my cell number again  &#8211;  250 342 1524.</p>
<p>I told you that as BC LIberal President, in the Columbia River Revelstoke areas,  that if you had anything factual rather than alarmist, I would be more than pleased to check into your concerns and if necessary, have the proper authorities deal with the problems.</p>
<p>I have yet to hear from you.  </p>
<p>David R Pacey<br />
BC LIberal President<br />
Columbia River Revelstoke</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rombach takes on Jumbo opposers by Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Endangered,

I have tried to carry on a civil debate on this subject, but it is futile!  Your belligerence, self righteousness and arrogance has led me to only one conclusion, you&#039;re either stupid or ignorant.  One thing is certain, you are so damn bull headed you are incapable of carrying on a educated debate which flows back and forth on a point/counter point basis.  Your arguments, although very well backed up by other peoples&#039; articles in socialist periodicals, are thin, superficial and cannot be backed up at all by your previous or future premisses.  Its kind of like arguing like a 4 year old; all be it a very intelligent 4 year old, but a 4 year old just the same.

So just so I&#039;m straight on you line thinking; if one takes a job based on lifestyle and opportunities and not on the size of the pay cheque which seems to be vitally important to you, we are simply providing McJobs which is done at the peril of society as a whole.  If one takes the experience gained from these entry level jobs and becomes successful, it is done also at the peril of society under the horrible banner of &quot;greed.&quot;   At what point on the journey through the work force are we supposed to start hating a person?  You&#039;ll have to excuse me if I&#039;m a bit confused at you circular debate??  

As for your post bellow, I guess its all over!!  All hope is gone??  I disrespectfully disagree.  When there is a healthy economic driver in place; a well planned economy creates sustainability and vitality.  Our economic driver is tourism, more specifically  tourism as it relates to outdoor, active recreation, sorry you can&#039;t come to terms with this Endangered, but JGR will happen and it will contribute to our Valley&#039;s healthy, sustainable economic future.

See ya on the slopes or under your bed hiding from the lights of a bright future ... it&#039;s your choice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Endangered,</p>
<p>I have tried to carry on a civil debate on this subject, but it is futile!  Your belligerence, self righteousness and arrogance has led me to only one conclusion, you&#8217;re either stupid or ignorant.  One thing is certain, you are so damn bull headed you are incapable of carrying on a educated debate which flows back and forth on a point/counter point basis.  Your arguments, although very well backed up by other peoples&#8217; articles in socialist periodicals, are thin, superficial and cannot be backed up at all by your previous or future premisses.  Its kind of like arguing like a 4 year old; all be it a very intelligent 4 year old, but a 4 year old just the same.</p>
<p>So just so I&#8217;m straight on you line thinking; if one takes a job based on lifestyle and opportunities and not on the size of the pay cheque which seems to be vitally important to you, we are simply providing McJobs which is done at the peril of society as a whole.  If one takes the experience gained from these entry level jobs and becomes successful, it is done also at the peril of society under the horrible banner of &#8220;greed.&#8221;   At what point on the journey through the work force are we supposed to start hating a person?  You&#8217;ll have to excuse me if I&#8217;m a bit confused at you circular debate??  </p>
<p>As for your post bellow, I guess its all over!!  All hope is gone??  I disrespectfully disagree.  When there is a healthy economic driver in place; a well planned economy creates sustainability and vitality.  Our economic driver is tourism, more specifically  tourism as it relates to outdoor, active recreation, sorry you can&#8217;t come to terms with this Endangered, but JGR will happen and it will contribute to our Valley&#8217;s healthy, sustainable economic future.</p>
<p>See ya on the slopes or under your bed hiding from the lights of a bright future &#8230; it&#8217;s your choice!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rombach takes on Jumbo opposers by Endangered</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endangered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The economic opportunities that were available to the baby boomer generation because of the demographic situation will not be available to the next generations. Globalization has exported those to other countries with lower wage costs. Globalization has been described as the race to the bottom as wages stagnate or decline , full time jobs are exported more part time/ contract McJobs are created. Henry ford created huge societal wealth by lowering the cost of automoblies to the price where AVERAGE people could afford them AND by paying his employees enough so they to could buy his product. ~Endangered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The economic opportunities that were available to the baby boomer generation because of the demographic situation will not be available to the next generations. Globalization has exported those to other countries with lower wage costs. Globalization has been described as the race to the bottom as wages stagnate or decline , full time jobs are exported more part time/ contract McJobs are created. Henry ford created huge societal wealth by lowering the cost of automoblies to the price where AVERAGE people could afford them AND by paying his employees enough so they to could buy his product. ~Endangered.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rombach takes on Jumbo opposers by Endangered</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endangered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately the problems appear systemic and are based upon greed. As the economist Galbraith said; &quot;In the Galbraith model of a speculative cycle, good times spawn the excess and corruption that eventually bring them to an end.&quot; Link here;
&lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/15/return-of-the-bezzle/ &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/15/return-of-the-bezzle/&lt;/a&gt;

Supply side economics, AKA, Horse and sparrow Economics 
VooDoo Economics/ Reganonmics,  Thatcherism,  Trickle Down Economics (no such thing, link here to most of these here; &lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics&lt;/a&gt;) As President Obama recently said to the Republicans, whom are Supply side supporters &quot;You can&#039;t constantly cut taxes at the same time as increasing spending, It just doesn&#039;t work&quot; The only way it works is to start borrowing money and that creates huge deficits. Regressive taxation policies creates prosperity for the few on the backs of the poor. Simply look around at BC&#039;s having the highest Child (Family) poverty in Canada for 6 years, CPP claims that Female Senior&#039;s poverty  is even higher across Canada at about one in six so if you want something to do simply quit ignoring these. Are not both of these OUR FUTURE?~Endangered</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the problems appear systemic and are based upon greed. As the economist Galbraith said; &#8220;In the Galbraith model of a speculative cycle, good times spawn the excess and corruption that eventually bring them to an end.&#8221; Link here;<br />
<a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/15/return-of-the-bezzle/ " type="external"  rel="nofollow">http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/15/return-of-the-bezzle/</a></p>
<p>Supply side economics, AKA, Horse and sparrow Economics<br />
VooDoo Economics/ Reganonmics,  Thatcherism,  Trickle Down Economics (no such thing, link here to most of these here; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics" type="external"  rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics</a>) As President Obama recently said to the Republicans, whom are Supply side supporters &#8220;You can&#8217;t constantly cut taxes at the same time as increasing spending, It just doesn&#8217;t work&#8221; The only way it works is to start borrowing money and that creates huge deficits. Regressive taxation policies creates prosperity for the few on the backs of the poor. Simply look around at BC&#8217;s having the highest Child (Family) poverty in Canada for 6 years, CPP claims that Female Senior&#8217;s poverty  is even higher across Canada at about one in six so if you want something to do simply quit ignoring these. Are not both of these OUR FUTURE?~Endangered</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rombach takes on Jumbo opposers by Endangered</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endangered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see proponents finally admitting to the McJobs at ski hills instead of hiding the reality under the term &quot;full time equivalent&quot; projections that we see in the Master Development agreements. People have tried to infer that  this would help laid off sawmill workers to further justify JGR to the public so here&#039;s an Employment description of the typical worker;
 ~Typically, though, ski area workers fall into three categories:
-Students
The bulk of ski jobs are ideal for students because most resort areas don&#039;t require a lengthy commitment. Although the busy ski season is winter when students are typically in school, it&#039;s possible for a student to arrange to take winter quarter off school and make up the time during summer. Furthermore, many ski resort employers don&#039;t require extensive experience or education for seasonal hires.

-Ski Bums
The seasonal, temporary nature of many ski area positions makes them especially suited to those who are willing to do what it takes to ski as much as possible.
From here; &lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.jobmonkey.com/ski/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jobmonkey.com/ski/&lt;/a&gt;

~ Since these McJobs aren&#039;t full time permanent positions usually with no benefits and no future, it creates additional demand on our society&#039;s Social safety net at the same time as every level of our governments have been slashing funding to it, escalating these costs. If your loosing your young to other areas it&#039;s usually because they see no future where they currently live, Can&#039;t afford housing, only McJobs available, can&#039;t afford to have children. Even further education appears to be a dead end as described in this story; &lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/style/so-you-thought-generation-x-was-angry/article1457660/ &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/style/so-you-thought-generation-x-was-angry/article1457660/ &lt;/a&gt; with the sub title &quot;My generation and those younger than us have been robbed of our rightful inheritance&quot;  ~Endangered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see proponents finally admitting to the McJobs at ski hills instead of hiding the reality under the term &#8220;full time equivalent&#8221; projections that we see in the Master Development agreements. People have tried to infer that  this would help laid off sawmill workers to further justify JGR to the public so here&#8217;s an Employment description of the typical worker;<br />
 ~Typically, though, ski area workers fall into three categories:<br />
-Students<br />
The bulk of ski jobs are ideal for students because most resort areas don&#8217;t require a lengthy commitment. Although the busy ski season is winter when students are typically in school, it&#8217;s possible for a student to arrange to take winter quarter off school and make up the time during summer. Furthermore, many ski resort employers don&#8217;t require extensive experience or education for seasonal hires.</p>
<p>-Ski Bums<br />
The seasonal, temporary nature of many ski area positions makes them especially suited to those who are willing to do what it takes to ski as much as possible.<br />
From here; <a href="http://www.jobmonkey.com/ski/" type="external"  rel="nofollow">http://www.jobmonkey.com/ski/</a></p>
<p>~ Since these McJobs aren&#8217;t full time permanent positions usually with no benefits and no future, it creates additional demand on our society&#8217;s Social safety net at the same time as every level of our governments have been slashing funding to it, escalating these costs. If your loosing your young to other areas it&#8217;s usually because they see no future where they currently live, Can&#8217;t afford housing, only McJobs available, can&#8217;t afford to have children. Even further education appears to be a dead end as described in this story; <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/style/so-you-thought-generation-x-was-angry/article1457660/ " type="external"  rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/style/so-you-thought-generation-x-was-angry/article1457660/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/style/so-you-thought-generation-x-was-angry/article1457660/</a>  with the sub title &#8220;My generation and those younger than us have been robbed of our rightful inheritance&#8221;  ~Endangered.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Olympic mittens arrive by Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were available at the District of Invermere office before the Olympic Torch Celebration. The supply was limited at that time, though, so not sure if there would be any left. 

If they don&#039;t have any, maybe one of the official Olympics websites would be selling some.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were available at the District of Invermere office before the Olympic Torch Celebration. The supply was limited at that time, though, so not sure if there would be any left. </p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t have any, maybe one of the official Olympics websites would be selling some.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rombach takes on Jumbo opposers by Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point Pacey,
The next point that Endangered is missing is the opportunities that are realized by those that choose to take them.  For example, a young guy who wanted a bit of the &#039;lifestyle&#039; went to a job fair in Ontario and boarded a bus to get his &quot;McJob&quot; he lived in the staff ecom; over priced and over crowded, he didn&#039;t make much money, but bagged enough riding to make a normal city kid&#039;s head spin.  He saw a need at Pano that couldn&#039;t be filled by the house keeping department so he started his own cleaning company.  About 3 or 4 years later he still enjoys the lifestyle, but now he does quite well for himself and employs a number of other young folks.      

Another story worth mentioning is that of another young &#039;ski bum&#039; who also chose to answer the call of the dreaded &quot;McJob&quot; and as Endangered and others would have us believe would be stuck forever in the mire of worthlessness.  He worked with the ski patrol for many years and gained invaluable experience in mountain operations.  These skills could not be taught, only learned within the brutal confines of his &quot;McJob.&quot;   He endured the torturous life, eventually it was realized that, despite the thoughts of some, his experience was indeed valuable.  This young ski patroller went on to partner with Joe Hussain at the helm of one of the most successful resort empires on the planet; the old Intrawest.  At the height of their success, Intrawest was sold to the doomed company that owns it now and Hugh Smythe, the lowly ski patroller retired a very happy and very successful man.  These are 2 of literarily thousands of success stories that ALL have the same beginning; &quot;once upon a time, I was forced to work in the salt mines for a glass of water and a bowl of rice per day...&quot;  

As an aside McDonald&#039;s to whom endangered and others offensively use as an example of dread and doom has given work experience and opportunities to literally millions and millions of young people; more than any other employer in the world.  I am a proud alumnus of the McDonald&#039;s crew; at 13, flipping burgers for $3.85/hr gave me a sense of belonging, independence and invaluable work experience that I still use in my life today.  I am grateful that I had this valuable opportunity.

Widen your scope Endangered!  If you can&#039;t or won&#039;t look at the big picture and see the huge opportunities that  come out of small entry level positions, you&#039;ll never &#039;get it.&#039;   Take experience, add experience and stir...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point Pacey,<br />
The next point that Endangered is missing is the opportunities that are realized by those that choose to take them.  For example, a young guy who wanted a bit of the &#8216;lifestyle&#8217; went to a job fair in Ontario and boarded a bus to get his &#8220;McJob&#8221; he lived in the staff ecom; over priced and over crowded, he didn&#8217;t make much money, but bagged enough riding to make a normal city kid&#8217;s head spin.  He saw a need at Pano that couldn&#8217;t be filled by the house keeping department so he started his own cleaning company.  About 3 or 4 years later he still enjoys the lifestyle, but now he does quite well for himself and employs a number of other young folks.      </p>
<p>Another story worth mentioning is that of another young &#8217;ski bum&#8217; who also chose to answer the call of the dreaded &#8220;McJob&#8221; and as Endangered and others would have us believe would be stuck forever in the mire of worthlessness.  He worked with the ski patrol for many years and gained invaluable experience in mountain operations.  These skills could not be taught, only learned within the brutal confines of his &#8220;McJob.&#8221;   He endured the torturous life, eventually it was realized that, despite the thoughts of some, his experience was indeed valuable.  This young ski patroller went on to partner with Joe Hussain at the helm of one of the most successful resort empires on the planet; the old Intrawest.  At the height of their success, Intrawest was sold to the doomed company that owns it now and Hugh Smythe, the lowly ski patroller retired a very happy and very successful man.  These are 2 of literarily thousands of success stories that ALL have the same beginning; &#8220;once upon a time, I was forced to work in the salt mines for a glass of water and a bowl of rice per day&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>As an aside McDonald&#8217;s to whom endangered and others offensively use as an example of dread and doom has given work experience and opportunities to literally millions and millions of young people; more than any other employer in the world.  I am a proud alumnus of the McDonald&#8217;s crew; at 13, flipping burgers for $3.85/hr gave me a sense of belonging, independence and invaluable work experience that I still use in my life today.  I am grateful that I had this valuable opportunity.</p>
<p>Widen your scope Endangered!  If you can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t look at the big picture and see the huge opportunities that  come out of small entry level positions, you&#8217;ll never &#8216;get it.&#8217;   Take experience, add experience and stir&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Olympic mittens arrive by BONNIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BONNIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I purchase these mittens?</description>
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		<title>Comment on An icebreaker for Wrenchbender by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More great pictures of the recovery and some more comments here:

&lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://tow411.yuku.com/topic/81980/t/what-was-he-thinking.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tow411.yuku.com/topic/81980/t/what-was-he-thinking.html&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More great pictures of the recovery and some more comments here:</p>
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